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Subject: looking for a way to cross a Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:07 am

OPEN FEILD. i am open to all suggestins. so let me have it. they so not have to be swat ether

Subject: Re: looking for a way to cross a Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:18 am

RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no...try not to cross an open field ...go around if you can

but in airsoft remember you can use the faults of the game in your favor.....people can only shoot so far

Subject: Re: looking for a way to cross a Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:51 am

Crouch walking is good. Running low is good also.

Subject: Re: looking for a way to cross a Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:16 am

yea run but what if there is something that must be done in the middle of the feild and you cant not go

Subject: Re: looking for a way to cross a Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:15 am

Then you kill the people in your way and move to the objective as fast as you can.

Subject: Re: looking for a way to cross a Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:48 am

StarWars wrote:

Then you kill the people in your way and move to the objective as fast as you can.

Or you can do it the way of the US Marines. Call in an airstrike to clear enemy structure, then call in attack choppers to clear the field of enemies.

Or you can do it the airsoft way, split in to 2 teams, 1 team is small and fast players, the other is a support team. the support team moves to engage the enemy forces and keep their heads down so team A can move in to the field and secure the objective.

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If you know where the enemies are, then you can just tell your teammates to get you some cover fire while you go do whatever you have to do in the middle of the field...

Subject: Re: looking for a way to cross a Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:05 am

If you are undetected, you can low crawl to the objective. Depending on how tall the weeds/grass are, yu can use whatever ground cover for concealment.

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Subject: Crossing an open field... Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:30 pm

dark swat wrote:

OPEN FIELD. i am open to all suggestins. so let me have it. they so not have to be swat ether

I assume from your post that crossing an open field is the objective rather than some
objective in the open field.

Like the other person said, avoid it if you can but if you are FORCED to cross, then
follow the tried and true methods. Use terrain to your advantage. Look FIRST
and size up the situation. Ask yourself:

Is there tall grass for concealment? (high and low crawl)

Are there any terrain bumps that can cover a man in the prone position? (battle rushes)

Are there any obstacles that would slow your speed across the field such as rocks,
limbs, objects? (route planning)

If you have a flat open field with none of the above, divide your team into two parts.

If you expect enemy contact (bounding overwatch)
Use bounding overwatch when you expect contact with the enemy or when you must cross
a large open danger area. The unit moves by bounds. One element always halts in position
to overwatch another element while the second unit moves. The overwatching element
is positioned to support the moving unit by fire or fire and maneuver.

a) The lead fire team overwatches first. Soldiers scan for enemy positions. The squad
leader usually stays with the overwatch team.
b) The trail fire team bounds and signals the squad leader when it completes its bound
and is prepared to overwatch the movement of the lead team.

Teams can bound successively or alternately. Successive bounds are easier to control; alternate
bounds can be faster. Both team leaders must know if they will use successive or alternate bounds
and which team the squad leader will be with. Overwatching team leaders must know the route and
destination of the bounding team. Bounding team leaders must know their team’s destination and
route, possible enemy locations, and actions to take when they arrive at the destination. They must
also know where the overwatching team will be and how they will receive their instructions. The
cover and concealment on the bounding team’s route dictate how its Soldiers move.

If contact with the enemy is possible, use a traveling overwatch.
The lead element and trailing elements are separated by a short distance.
The trailing element varies its speed and may pause for short periods
to overwatch the lead element. It keys its movement and speed to terrain and the lead
element. The trailing element positions itself in order to provide fire support to the lead
element if the lead element makes contact with the enemy. Attached weapons move near
squad leaders and under their control so they can employ them quickly.

If you do not expect enemy contact (squad traveling)
Team one moves forward at a quick pace in a fire team wedge.
Your Platoon Leader is behind them about 10 meters. (in real life about 60 meters)
Team two moves forward at a quick pace in a fire team wedge
about 10 meters behind the platoon leader.

This is current US Army doctrine. Adapt and improvise as it fits to your Airsoft team.

Respectfully,
Mike W.
Auburn, AL

newbie Posts: 35 Join date: 2008-11-17 Age: 24

You could always try smoke grenades to conceal your movements, just pay attention to the wind.

Subject: Possibly.. Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:06 pm

Hello Everyone,

Link1985 wrote:

You could always try smoke grenades to conceal your movements, just pay attention to the wind.

If you are in contact with the enemy then that would be a tool to use.

If, on the other hand, you were crossing a field and the enemy does not know your location,
you are using concealment and stealth, why use smoke to tell everyone and satellite surveillance
too where you are...?

Every tool and tactic has a proper place and application and a wrong place and wrong application. It
depends on the tactical situation at the time. If you are taking fire from one side of the field and
you MUST cross it for some cosmic strange reason, Smoke certainly would be advisable. If the
enemy is on a patrol looking for you but doesn't know where you are, keep it quiet, concealed,
and low profile.

Respectfully,
Mike W.
Auburn, AL

newbie Posts: 51 Join date: 2008-09-22

Crossing open field in airsoft is easy.
Outrange your opponent.
Scare him, push him back.

You just need to push the enemy into cover outside the field, that's surprisingly ineffective against fire from the cover you're moving to.

Then, crush the opposition.

THIS is one area a good, accurate, upgraded gun is VERY useful.

Subject: Crossing over... Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:01 pm

Hellfire903 wrote:

Crossing open field in airsoft is easy.
Outrange your opponent.
Scare him, push him back.
You just need to push the enemy into cover outside the field, that's surprisingly ineffective against fire from the cover you're moving to.
Then, crush the opposition.
THIS is one area a good, accurate, upgraded gun is VERY useful.

That might work against inexperienced players but if you come across a team
that is practiced at maneuvering fire, recon by fire, and are determined,
your team is going to find yourself facing withering fire with nowhere to hide.

You say Outrange your opponent. I review the rules of the field before we
go and I try find a few who have FPS that run up to the field limit. You are
right that maximum allowed range is important but remember if you play
at fields where certain FPS requires a 100-ft MED, then once you get inside
that 100 ft, your opponent can shoot at you but you cannot shoot at them.
If you do, you can expect a visit from the game marshal.

As to fear, I have yet to meet anyone who has a fear of airsoft. They may
not like getting hit because it takes them out of the game for a short while
but that is not fear based.

As far as cover, if I spotted a team crossing a field, fire discipline would be
the key to the ambush. Wait until they get within 80 feet of the woodline
and then everyone open fire making them flee always across the field.

Proven Tactics, training as a team, and discipline are the elements to build
a successful team. Even those guys who have never played together but
are trained can work together. Of course, I have been preaching the
training and battle drill theme for over a year in the last two forums.

Respectfully,
Mike W.
Auburn, AL

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Subject: Re: looking for a way to cross a Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:04 pm

weve got a nice open field here...and a game on december 6th.....yall could try all these tactics out and see which one works best. cheers

Subject: Just a point of view... Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:47 pm

joshuaearlwade wrote:

weve got a nice open field here...and a game on december 6th.....yall could try all these tactics out and see which one works best. cheers

I am not saying that Hellfire is wrong. He has a point of view. I have several but I am never
too proud to learn from anyone who has something to contribute. He is right about being
aggressive in battle. You have to take the fight to the enemy, engage them, and kill them.
But my point was, that aggression alone will not win a battle anymore than having just
one or two skills will win consistently. You have a train in a broad spectrum of skills because
every situation is different and requires a custom tailored response based upon a wide
array of skills. Aggressiveness and Decisiveness are very powerful tools but they are
also tempered with skill, training, and tactical thinking.

Respectfully,
Mike W.
Auburn, AL

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