I always find myself just out of range of my target. I often find myself arching my gun to get the bb's to the target. I am experiencing about 130 feet out of my Dboys Scar. Which I understand is average range out of an AEG. It this about what everyone else gets?

I am looking at a 2nd gun that has a greater range. I want the range of a sniper but at least semi automatic...so bolt action is out. I love the short m4's but I want 200 feet out of my next gun. Right now im looking at a dboys all metal m16 spr - 380 fps with around 200 feet range.

Looking at alternative M4's as well. Does anyone know of a M4 with a 200 foot range?

Hello Everyone,

When you are at events, look at the weapons of other players before a game and see how they
chrono. Politely ask if you can shoot a few rounds on semi just to get a feel for the velocity
and range. After you have tried several you will have some sort of base of performance to
launch your own search for what you are looking for. It's hard to "get a feel for it" in the vacuum
of advertisements and internet claims.

See with your own eyes what you like and what you don't like. At my very first airsoft game at
Weaver, I didn't own a gun. I did shoot several and finally got something that I have liked for
almost 2 years now with no regrets. It was exactly what I wanted. While youtube and advice
on an internet forum may point you to some specific guns, there is no substitute for holding one
in your hand, squeezing off a few rounds at a target 200 feet away, and asking the gun owner
about their gun and any upgrades. I worked for me and you get to make friends in the process,
something of great value later when you are on the field. I have certainly made some good
friends here who have some great guns that I was given the opportunity to shoot in order to
understand the very wide range of guns out there and their performance, both good and bad.

Shoot one before you buy one. Learn how it feels in your hands, on your shoulder, looking
down the sights, see that white dot go downrange and the sound of the gun cycling. You
can't get that from the internet. When you do both, you become an informed consumer and
in the end, you will probably be happy with your final decision in the long run, like I was.

Respectfully,
Esquire
Auburn, AL

Longer barrels do increase accuracy and range very much. An MP5 with the same FPS as an M4 will be mush less accurate and have much less range. As for the Firefly bucking, mateba told me the soft type seem to have weak lips and double feed. I saw one this weekend that did it. But I also saw a hard type in a different gun the very same day that performed very well at around 400fps. The Prometheus purple (soft) bucking is a good bucking and I'd suggest getting it. I've also seen and used some Modify buckings that I really like.

Scarr, try a v-hop mod on the HU unit arm. You can but bucking that do this but unless you can find a KM RH65 bucking (over seas) I would suggest trying this. The notches are based of the venerable TM VSR-10 HU unit. M4 HU arms can be bought as after market products. A slick (no hump or notch) bucking would be best for this. If you don't have one, you can rotate your current bucking. http://pageproducer.arczip.com/daedalus03/workshop.html This goes without saying that you have to use heavy BBs and keep you barrel clean.

The recent fireflys I have seen for AEGs have had weak feed lips. From soft to hard they seem to all have this problem. Hop-up is where range is at. If you can float a BB you can gain a good amount of range. They are usually subject to the environment but we are talking about the balance of backspin and bleeding the energy the BB has stored while in the barrel. Wind will obviously disrupt this. BBs start loosing velocity as soon as they leave the barrel. Heavy BBs retain more energy since it takes the same amount of force to stop an object as it does to start it. Being able to apply backspin on BBs will keep them aloft as them slow down.

Barrel length is not a huge boon to accuracy but it can help to a point. A quality made (w/ strict tolerances) that has a ~6.03mm bore will be just right for good grouping and hop-up use. From what I understand, the tighter the barrel the more velocity you gain and the less hop-up you can use. I personally think HU FTW especially with AEGs. I don't think you should expect sniper distance. There is a reason bolt action rifles out range most and should out range select fire rifles.

If you can replace your bucking or take a stab at the v-hop mod, you should consider a few upgrades to complement your rifles performance. M120 spring (I like Guarders), a 6.03mm TBB, a full cylinder (non-ported, type "0" or "A"), and a bag of .28g BBs. If you find your BBs dropping without much of a float you will still need to adjust your HU> The v-hop mod makes for a very sensitive HU unit. You'll need to be patient. If you find that canting you rifle either left or right improves your trajectory, your bucking or barrel is misaligned in the opposite direction. If you use scopes you can just twist the scope and keep your horizon level.

Wouldn't a Bigout H nub have the same effect as the V hopup mod?

I appreciate everyone's input. Here's my feedback. I've always field stripped and cleaned/repaired my own real guns. So I am not shy about breaking down this gun and upgrading. I do want to eventually gut and upgrade the internals on my scar. The exterior is rock solid but I expect the internals to wear out with time. I do operate by the practice of "if it ain't broke don't fix it". So my focus here is to find a 2nd gun capable of the performance I am looking for. When the time comes I perform surgery on the scar. Keeping that in mind, what AEG will reach 200ft yet is relatively compact, mostly if not all full metal and be a beast of a gun. Let's keep the budget to $300 or less.

I am assuming by the lack of response here no one has a answer or the answer is there is no answer. I may just have to go with a bolt action to achieve the fresh "out of the box" performance I am looking for.

ya,i have no idea.im going to test mine today & see whats its shooting fairly accurate at what distince.ill update this post after i do & let you know the outcome

well my AGM-416 was consistant at 120ft & my AGM M16A4 was consistant at 150ft,it would hit a 2ftW/3ftH target at 200ft. like 1 out of 5. all tested with .20g bbs,but i feel like .25g bbs would have inreased those chances alot.so you might could just get some .25g or .28g bbs & see how that works for you

I am almost sure that there is no out of the box gun within a $300 range that is going to effectively hit targets. Note even a sniper rifle. There are so many variables that will get a gun to shoot at it's maximum accurate range that it is hard to say exactly what to do. With out changing the FPS of a gun there are a few upgrades that you can do top improve accuracy which will drive effective range but not a jump from 150 feet to 200 feet. To really improve the range, you must increase the FPS. When you up the FPS, there are safety restriction that will change how you are playing. I think the bigger question is what class will give you the most satisfaction. There are roughly 4-5 classes and each one has it's own restrictions and advantages. If you are not familiar with the weapon restrictions for the different classes let me know and we can go over some of the rules and what rules other fields use.

Well I finally decided on a gun and bought a DMR. 450 FPS. Hopefully this gun will have the power and range I am looking for.

Mad - what is my min engagement range for that gun if it chrono's for a full 450 fps? I do carry a backup pistol for close encounters.

At my games it will be classified as a DMR. Your MED will be 40 feet. Your are allowed full and semi auto. You can not engage inside of 40 feet with a DMR. To attack or defend yourself within 40, you will have to carry a close range approved weapon. You are not allowed to engage within CQB areas. A DMR is classified as a support weapon and is limited to one per unit.